Well sure man... the past year has been full of reasons to get angry at the Canadian gov't. It's been downhill for a while, but it seems like recently it's hit some serious low notes.

Oh come on, man
Just because we don't live in the US doesn't mean that we don't have a right to criticize your government and their policies, just as any American (or anyone from any other country) has a right to not like our government and their policies. The US government holds a lot of power in the world. The US is our #1 trading partner. There is a very good reason that people have strong opinions about the American government. Just because we don't live in the US doesn't mean that all Canadian's have uninformed opinions and talk out of their ass about the US. Some do, no doubt about it. But some don't as well. Generalizations suck, BH

It still hasn't stopped some tho.

NL sure has had a rough ride since they made the mistake of joining confederation.

I'm in ON but can easily emphasize with the viewpoints of Western, French and Newfie separatists. I myself would like to move out West where I believe they have a good shot of making it on their own.

In my opinion it’s not a question of “ifâ€

While I'm not a huge fan of Harper, I see him as the lesser of 3 evils...

Libs = Mafia
NDP = Communists in sheep's clothing
CPC = Still wet-behind-the-ears

I'd rather take my chances with the Conservatives. But, if I'm able to get out of Canada, I don't care if anyone seperates or not... I won't be forced to lie in a bed not of my making, and that's what matters to me.

And yes, the #1 problem with Canada is that Ottawa has always treated every province/territory outside of Ontario and Quebec as colonies. Centralized government for a country as vast as Canada is completely inefficient and incapable of just rule. But as long as 20+ million of the country's 32 million citizens live in Ontario and Quebec, nothing's ever gonna change until the country inevitibly disintregrates from within.

Any nation large and diverse enough that one sizeable, self-sustaining population can be distinguished from another is going to have problems with unity because the existence of those people will vary greatly, not just in terms of social class but in the entire concept of social order.

I don’t see how an unrepentant socialist will improve the situation in this country.

Never have I said that. Ever. Look it up.

True.

True.

Call me cynical, but please give something other than insubstantial points of Bush being a supposed buffoon.

Well...

Nice save. Albeit half-hearted.

No shit.

That's one of the problems with democracy- it will always be in the interests of the majority. If you're not part of that majority, too bad.

Makes sense.
I agree 100% with the Liberals being nothing better than a bunch of white collar criminal motherfuckers who must go. The problem for me lies in that I vehemently disagree with Harper's proposed policies. The GST cut makes no sense. Our education and health care need funding, so we CUT tax? What kind of stupid shit is that? Yeah it makes sense as a way to snag some votes, everybody loves to save money. But as much as tax is a bitch, it's a necessary evil, and cutting it will just screw us even further. Harper's crime policies (mandatory min. sentences for drug offences? Fuck right off, Mr. Harper, you have no idea what you're talking about on this one) disgust me. His idea of repealing gay marriages is bigotry at it's best. I just haaaaaaaaaaaaaate that party.
That leaves the NDP. Universal health care? Better education? Goddamn right. We need it. Those are two of the main reasons that I would never leave this country. The NDPs problem is that that is all they've talked about in their campaign so far. Where do they stand on crime, corporate taxation, etc? Nobody knows.
But based on all of the above, I'd like to see the NDP at least get a shot in government. They can't be any worse than the other two parties, right?

Agreed. Canadians need to start worrying more about their own country and less about the U.S. The Americans can look after things on their own.

Christ, who the hell are we to judge?

Hey, this could be fun. Let's play the lesser-of-two(or more)-devils game, yay!

Libs = balanced government from the centre
NDP = extreme left, will put Canada into more debt
CPC = extreme right, will infringe on civil liberties and impose their own particular and peculiar view of morality on everybody

Libs = corrupt
NDP = government for the people, by the people
CPC = fascist pigs

Libs = eco-haters
NDP = eco-haters
CPC = eco-haters
Green = saving the children of tomorrow by saving the environment of today

Libs
NDP
CPC
Green
Marijuana = hurry up and fucking legalize it man

Well, I moved from the States. Let's just say I find it quite interesting for all sorts of reasons.

BH:

Your post saying that it was nice to see Canadians talking about their own country was a bit misleading. Whether or not it was your intention, you came off as though you were stating that Canadians should ONLY talk about their own government. If that wasn't what you were insinuating, my mistake, sorry dude. I'm not looking to get into a pissing war with ya

Honestly, I do believe that some of the finger-pointing is often misplaced...

But whatever...

Wrong.

For examples look at the Bob Rae gov't in Ontario and any one of the NDP gov'ts in BC

Provincial parties and federal parties are different entities.

Just ask the federal Liberals what they think of the BC Liberals.

Extreme right?

You've been seriously disillusioned. Canada has no true right wing party what we have is:

CPC = left
Liberals = more left
NDP = most left

Compare the CPC to other conservative parties in countries like the UK and Australia and you might start to get a sense of right vs. left.

'cause some have incorrectly likened Burning Man to The White Stripes

Actually, we didn't 'join'... We were handed over by England to Canada as a reparation of war-debt. The referendum was a complete sham. However, I can forgive England's position (somewhat)... Given the beating they took on their home soil by the Germans and having to rebuild all of that infrastructure, I can understand why they'd see a small fishing colony an ocean away as such an insignificant price to pay. I am convinced though that had they known about NL's mineral and oil deposits, they'd have never given us up, and that in the long run, NL would have been much better off economically. BTW, did you know that the Canadian gov. knew about the massive iron-ore deposits in Labrador prior to our 'handover', but kept that info from British and NL representatives in order to ensure our entrance into confederation???





Atlantic Canada could do well on it's own too, if only we controlled our own resources. And, I'm sure you meant no offense by it, but for future refernece, a lot of us don't appreciate the term 'Newfie'.


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In my opinion it’s not a question of “ifâ€

Granted but the federal NDP and provincial NDP parties all tend to be socialist and socialism doesn't work in my opinion.

Please, go back and read over my *entire* post rather than editing out one part. Try to keep the word "parody" in the back of your mind as you read over it, rather than excerpting one particular section and reading that literally.

So because I don't live in Toronto, it's okay for the federal government to economically assrape me and everyone else that lives in my province???

[quote="K.G. Satan"]And, I'm sure you meant no offense by it, but for future refernece, a lot of us don't appreciate the term 'Newfie'. [quote]

My apologies